“I thought the stuff you'd written was most definitely hyperbole.”

I generally really like Hank Green (e.g., the ending of this video - "Despair is not wisdom"), but recently came across a video where he went off on a “climate denialist.” You are a climate denialist if you question anything "the scientists" say. Or if you talk of cost / benefit analysis, or think that there might be any course of action other than screaming about fossil fuels. 

Roger Pielke devil, Michael Mann angel.  

Then Anne and I got this from a couple of new friends:

We also recently joined an EA book club to get more involved in the EA community (mainly to diversify away from the radical abolitionist vegan friends we have here). The EAs for the most part are really cool, except a few of them do take insect suffering more seriously than animal suffering, but still other than that, they are a sensible lot. ... 

[A]n incident from last month. We read "Change of Heart" by Nick Cooney as part of this group, and we were hoping to have an amazing discussion on animal welfare with the group. BUT a couple of radical (non-EA) environmentalists showed up and completely hijacked the discussion with their agenda. Before we met them, I really thought the stuff you'd written about in Carbon Cult Cruelty was most definitely hyperbole. 

At the time I read your piece, my gut reaction was "I mean, I agree with all this, but who's actually stupid enough to advocate for more human suffering to reduce carbon?" But that day we met stupid. The cultists went on multiple tirades to live like people in poor countries (in poverty), live like "natives," advocate for sterilization, etc. They even defended Malthus [like this guy], like he was some genius who was unfairly attacked. 

Ironically they'd started the discussion by saying you can't change the minds of cultists (they were talking about climate skeptics) and then proceeded to show how nothing will change their minds!

Yup.

I wish I had exaggerating. But if you ever follow the links in CCC, such as “Is the West saying Africa should remain undeveloped?” and The Cruelty of Climate Fanatics, you'll see that it is not hyperbole to note that they are cruel cultists. And Hank Green is another example of audience capture.

Here's a list of some recent good news. May the 4th be with you.