My friends at ARZone have a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion with Paul Shapiro, touching on his early days, but delving more deeply into the inner workings of and decision-making processes at HSUS. If you or anyone you know has questions about HSUS, give this podcast a listen!
Paul also listened to my ARZone interview, and said his favorite lines were:
- I don’t care about ideology; I care about results.
- We’re social animals long before we’re philosophical animals.